Posted by: splat | September 23, 2011

Does the doctrine of “eternal security” promote sin?

Do those who believe in the doctrine of “eternal security” have a greater or lesser tendency to commit sin? I am hoping to have a stab at answering this question here. This is a deep question and one that I feel has a better chance of being answered from both sides on a forum rather than in chat text or on microphone. Part of the reason is that this topic can become complex and it is easy to forget the details of the argument that has been put forward by the previous speaker. At least on a forum one can re-read and re-acquaint oneself with the case put forward by the previous writer.

The case often put forward is that eternal security provides a cloak for those who wish to sin with impunity under the covering of grace. At the heart of this, I think, is the belief that fear, rather than God’s grace, is a better deterrent of sin. The assertion here is that you will fear God more if you are capable of sinning away your salvation and be more careful about your walk. The question is then as to whether this fear produces true repentance. What do the scriptures say?

Romans 2:4 NASB Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?

or in the KJV

Romans 2:4 KJV Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

Here it implies that its God’s mercy and kindness that leads people to repentance. This seems at odds with it being driven by fear.

Another verse is:

Luke 7:47 NASB “For this reason I say to you, her sins, which are many, have been forgiven, for she loved much; but he who is forgiven little, loves little.”

Here it says that those who know they are the bigger sinners, who know they are forgiven, will love God much. Love and fear are not the same thing.

How does this pertain to “eternal security”? Well, if one believes that God will forgive all their sins, even wilful sins, then they are more secure than those who believe that God only forgives accidental sins. If they know and understand that the price has been paid for their sins then they no longer need to be “on tenterhooks” wondering if at this moment they are acceptable to God. We know that from Psalm 37 that fretting leads only to evil doing.

Psalms 37:8 NASB Cease from anger and forsake wrath; Do not fret; it leads only to evildoing.

If they can be allowed to not fret about this will they do less evildoing? I believe so. Hence this is my reasoning why I consder that the doctrine of “eternal security” is less prone to sin rather than the assumed increase in sin.

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  1. I, myself, cannot fathom being married to a husband who has stated that it is my performance that will keep my relationship with him or demolish it. Think about it! Over a time, the woman would become totally consumed with her*self* and never have a true peace that her husband loves her fully.. always wondering if she could have done more, or didn’t please him. eventually, the pressure of never knowing if you are really acceptable to him or not, and every mistake would bring you into a paranoia. eventually, seeing that you were not discarded by him, even tho you had displeased him, would bring you to the realization that you could do these things without being cast away. Notice this whole realm of thinking within this wife, is all about her, and her, and her, and her position with him. Its not about Him, because she has to constantly be concerned with herself.
    Put yourself in the ‘husband’ position of a woman who thinks its all about her, and thinks she is the one holding the marriage together, or breaking it. When all along, he tells her to have peace with him, he fully loves her, even when she goofs up. Yet.. she walks paranoid in his site, walking on egg shells before him, never quite fully relaxing.
    1. This woman (above) – has she not laid a path of temptations and pressures upon herself that she claims *he* laid on her – is it not these pressures that could easily drive her.. which way? to leave him, to sin against him?
    2. Two things must be in her mind: “It is me that makes or breaks this marriage.” (that’s quite a burden, considering it on a spiritual level). “this is all about me, not him.” “If i am the one responsible for destroying this marriage, i am also the one responsible for making it a good marriage.”

    Please, as a man, can you imagine being in this marriage?

    You, as the husband, would see.. that your bride never saw that you fully love her, and desire her to be in union with you to live out life. you watch as she tries hard everyday to appease you so you don’t tell her to walk out the door.. would this not break your heart? You look at her deep in her eyes, and she smiles and fidgets.. and you know its because she thinks you are scrutinizing her to see if she pleased you today or if she did anything against you. But this is not your heart, while you smile at your wife. you adore her, because you brought her to the place to be one with you. You watch, as through the years, she’s become so paranoid of you, she has become all about herself within your marriage. She cant think of anything but how her performance has made you feel.. if she believes she did a great job today, she is proud of holding her marriage together one more day. success! on with the next day. to do it again. its all about her. the only thing that is about him, is.. will he accept me today or toss me? oh boy.

    the same attitudes of women in marriages like this, have slithered over into some church types. the self – absorbed vain woman. which leads to sin. manipulation, deception, lies.


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